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AN OPEN LETTER TO LIEUTENANT GENERAL MICHAEL SHORT

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Author: Stella L. Jatras
Posted on 11/03/1999 16:11:57 PST by Poincare

AN OPEN LETTER TO LIEUTENANT GENERAL MICHAEL SHORT, Commander, 16th Air Force, United States Air Forces, Europe Commander, Allied Forces, Southern Europe

Dear General Short:

On 21 October, Reuters reported: "His voice breaking with emotion at a Senate hearing, the U.S. Air Force general who headed NATO's spring bombing of Serbia lashed out at France on Thursday for repeatedly vetoing proposed targets in Belgrade." You were also quoted as saying, "This is a personal thing with me." You explained that your son flew 40 missions in the A-10 in Kosovo and that he was hit by an SA-13, and that, "He called me that night on a secure phone and the first words were 'Don't tell mom'."

As the wife of a retired Air Force fighter pilot and the mother of two sons, I share your concern for the safety of those whom we love; however, General, just as my husband was a legitimate target when he flew his missions over Vietnam, your son was a legitimate target, unlike the civilians he bombed.

Lest what I have to say be misconstrued as being anti-military or anti- American, let me make it clear that I love our country and I have always supported our military. However, I deplore the fact that young Americans such as your son were ordered to attack a sovereign nation, in violation of international law and the basic tenants of NATO. When the initial attacks against the military and political structure of Yugoslavia failed, those young men were ordered by you and your superiors to wage a war of terror against the civilian population. Our warriors go into battle trusting in the honesty, honor and ethics of their superiors. "Theirs is not to reason why. Theirs is but to do or die." You and the other lackeys of the Clinton administration failed them.

I now ask you, General:

- Was it your son whose bombs hit a bridge in central Serbia crowded with traffic and pedestrians on a Sunday afternoon, where 17 people were wounded and nine people died, including "a priest with his head blasted away?" (Reuters, 30 May). Or was it your son who, four minutes after the initial attack, hit the bridge again just as help arrived for the surviving victims?

- Was it your son whose bombs decapitated a Serbian child? "We found the head of a child in a garden and many limbs in the mud. But you don't want to report that. CNN filmed the bodies, but they don't show them on television" (The Independent, 29 April).

- Was it your son whose bombs dismembered Serbian children making it almost impossible to match the children's torsos with their arms and legs, although several were recognized by their sneakers? (The Guardian, 18 May).

- Was it your son whose bombs buried people alive under tons of rubble from destroyed apartment buildings?

- Was it your son whose bombs hit the convoy of ethnic Albanians reducing the victims to ashes, and then have your NATO pimp spokesperson, Jamie Shea, have the gall to deny that NATO pilots, possibly your son, were responsible for this atrocity by blaming it on the Serbs?

- Was it your son who bombed hospitals, schools, orphanages, cemeteries, churches, 14th century monasteries on the World Heritage list, in a barbaric act to destroy Serbian culture, society and religion?

- Was it your son whose bombs hit oil supplies polluting the air so that civilians couldn't breath, as well as water supplies, civilian apartments, civilian factories so as to destroy the quality of life and terrorize those who were not killed? And let us not forget the pollution of the Danube caused by NATO bombs which has affected all the surrounding nations' international trade costing them millions of dollars.

- Was it the depleted uranium from the shells of the Gatling Gun on your son's A-10 that poisoned the soil and the air of the Serbian people so that their children will be born deformed, and rendered the soil unfit to produce food for the people to eat?

- Or perhaps it was your son who bombed the Chinese Embassy in another "mistake."

Besides hitting the Chinese Embassy, your not-so-smart bombs damaged the embassies of Italy, Switzerland, Pakistan, India, Libya, and Iraq. Not only could your smart bombs not find the right target, they couldn't even find the right country as they hit Macedonia once and Bulgaria five times.

NATO pilots bombed Yugoslavia more in 78 days than Hitler did in all of World War II. Can you understand what that means to a people who were our allies in two world wars? It was the Serbian nationalist leader, General Draza Mihailovich, who rescued over 500 downed American pilots while Croatian and Bosnian/Kosovar/Albanian Muslims at the same time were turning them over to the Germans for execution. Prior to the impending bombing of Serbs in Bosnia, which turned out to be a rehearsal for Kosovo, retired Air Force Major Richard Felman, President of the National Committee of American Airmen Rescued by General Mihailovich, Inc., placed an ad in The Washington Times on 9 June 1994. In his emotional appeal, Major Felman said, "It would be the cruelest of ironies and break our hearts to see our fellow Americans go charging into Bosnia with their guns blazing to kill the very Serbian people who saved our lives while at the same time helping some of the people who were shooting at us and turning us over to the Germans." The ad went on to say, "Mr. President, where is America's sense of honor, decency and gratitude to those on foreign soil who save American lives? Do we return their sacrifice and kindness by killing them?"

Apparently, the answer is, Yes, for in August of 1995, NATO, in violation of its mission as a defensive force, assumed the mantra of an offensive force by dropping over 6,000 tons of bombs within a two-week period on Bosnian Serbs hitting hospitals, churches, schools and homes. This act of US-led NATO aggression was based on the Markale marketplace massacre. The disgraceful irony is that a UN report confirmed that Bosnian Muslim forces had committed the atrocity. The UN report was also confirmed in European newspapers, such as The [London] Sunday Times which headlined, "Serbs 'not guilty' of massacre, Experts warned US that mortar was Bosnia." (1 Oct 95). Further substantiating the claim that Muslims forces had committed the massacre, a British think tank, The Islamic Affairs Analyst, wrote, "US Framed Serbs for Market Bombing." (18 Oct 95). Just as we betrayed the Serbian people in World War II and delivered them into the hands of the communist dictator, Marshall Josef Tito, himself a Croat, we betrayed the Serbian people for a second time in this century when we took sides against them in this latest Balkan tragedy.

And the horror we have wrought on innocent civilians doesn't stop there. NATO cluster bombs continue to kill children.

And just what has our illegal and immoral air campaign against a sovereign nation accomplished?

Since KFOR entered Kosovo, General, this great victory of which you are so proud, these "peacekeepers" have stood by while the 200,000 Serbian men, women and children who remained in Kosovo have been reduced to fewer than 12,000, with the number steadily approching zero. While the eradication of Serbs is taking place, NATO and the media remain silent. Serbian nuns are being gang raped or forced to stand naked before their KLA tormentors, Serbian priests are being beaten and murdered, "Grannies" have been targeted for special horrors, such as decapitation, drowning (in bathtubs), stabbing or raped and the atrocities continue. The demonization of the Serbian people is complete. Christian humanitarian organizations are collecting millions of dollars to help ethnic Albanians but not one penny goes to a hungry or suffering Serbian child. The 1999 winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, France's Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) or Doctors without Borders, (DWB)recently expelled the Greek arm of DWB because the Greeks showed compassion by treating those injured in Yugoslavia during NATO's bombing campaign, just as they showed compassion when Greece was the first country to go to Turkey's aid following the tragic earthquake. However, administering to a dying Serbian child is in violation of the inhumane US-led sanctions which prevent any medical assistance to the Serbian people. It appears that the Hippocratic Oath by France's Medecins Sans Frontieres stops at the Serbian border.

But cruelty towards the Serbian people does not stop there. President "I Feel Your Pain" Clinton has decreed that there will be no fuel for Serbs facing a harsh winter until Serbian President Milosevic is thrown out of office in spite of the fact that tens of thousand of Serbs have demonstrated against Slobo at great risk to themselves. What the president is offering the Serbs is, "You can either die by freezing or by starving to death through my sanctions." Some choice!

The American people are finally beginning to realize that they have been lied to in order for this President to justify NATO's war on innocent civilians and to send our sons and daughters into harm's way. "War Reports: The Lies Are Unraveling," writes Agence France-Press, March 31. "The NATO bombing of Yugoslavia must stop, the moderate Kosovo Albanian political leader Ibrahim Rugova told journalists in Pristina Wednesday." The American people were told that Rugova, along with his entire family had been executed by Serbs. However, while that was being reported by the American media, they were alive and well and had taken refuge in Belgrade from the Kosovo Liberation Army, but the lie was more believable. Considering the following. There were:

- No mass graves containing the bodies of ethnic Albanians. Thus far several hundred bodies have been found, not an astounding number in a land where ethnic stife and war have been going on since 1992. This number is a far cry from the lie of 100,000 that President Clinton used in his successful effort to demonize the Serbian people.

- No 600,000 ethnic Albanians trapped in Kosovo either lying in mass graves, starving, or too afraid to go home as claimed by President Clinton when he lied to the American people (USA Today, 1 July)

- No "genocide" as the American people were led to believe. A tragedy, yes. A genocide, no. I know of no genocide that provided modern buses and trains (referred to as "boxcars" by the media so that the insinuation would not be lost) to take refugees to the borders of Macedonia and Albania and not to the gas chambers. Hardly any mention was made that many ethnic Albanians fled to Serbia proper and Montenegro to escape NATO's bombs.

- No great numbers of ethnic Albanians fleeing Kosovo until NATO began its bombing campaign of terror which prompted one refugee to say to Senator Inhofe of Oklahoma when he was visiting the refugees, "We wouldn't be here if it weren't for YOU (the United States). "Mirvei, a tall Albanian woman clutching her four-month-old baby, looked bewildered when asked if Serbian troops had driven her out. 'There were no Serbs,' she said. 'We were frightened of the bombs.' - Red Cross officials say many of the most recent arrivals [in Macedonia] intend to return to Kosovo as soon as the NATO bombardment stops." [London Sunday Times, March 27].

- "The number of civilians killed during the war in Kosovo may be no more than 2,500, according to a British Sunday Newspaper. The figure was estimated by a Spanish pathologist sent to the southern Serbian province immediately after the end of hostilities last summer to look for the bodies of ethnic Albanians killed by Serb forces. It contrasted sharply with a claim by U.S. Defence Secretary William Cohen at the height of the NATO bombing in May that up to 100,000 ethnic Albanian men were missing and might have been murdered." (Reuters, 31 Oct). In other words, General, we dismembered a sovereign nation, a founding member of the United Nations based on lies of mass murder and atrocities when there were no more than 2,500 civilian deaths, on all sides. Why? Because the tiny nation of Yugoslavia had to be destroyed as an example to other nations which might defy of the New World Order. Hitler said in 1939, "The great masses of people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one." President Clinton threw out the hook, and the American people took the bait.

And with whom have we jumped into bed? We have jumped into bed with a bunch of narco-terrorist Kosovo Liberation Army(KLA)cutthroats who were trained in Osama bin Laden's camps in Afghanistan and who have now established their own mini-Afghanistan in Kosovo. The most disgusting picture that sticks in my craw is the one of Hashim Thaci, leader of the KLA, kissing Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, on both cheeks after he had just executed six of his top officers. And just what have we succeeded in doing? We have succeeded in turning over Serbia's Jerusalem to these cutthroats.

And finally, I return to the Reuter's dispatch where you said, "this is a personal thing with me." Just what did you think, General, was happening to Americans of Serbian descent, many of whom still have fathers, mothers, sisters and brothers living in the Mother country, watching your son destroy a nation and a people? Was that not "a personal thing" for them?

The Serbian people survived 500 years of suffering under the Ottoman Empire. They survived the atrocities committed under the Nazis by their fascist Croatian and Muslim enemies. They survived under Tito's brutal communist system. Now through our ignorance, our gullibility and a deliberate, concerted campaign of lies and disinformation to destroy these heroic people, they are facing annihilation by a hostile world.

And finally, General, welcome to the New World Order you have helped to create. Maybe the job you did in Kosovo and your performance at the Senate hearing will get you another star on your shoulder. Wear it in shame.

Stella L. Jatras


Awaiting a reply. Right.

1 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:11:57 PST by Poincare
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To: Kate22, FISHHOG

bump

2 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:14:50 PST by Poincare
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To: Poincare

Don't hold your breath. You'll never get one. The General is a nut. He exposed his son to ridicule etc. I haven't heard any pilot or missle man claim credit for this monstrous war.

This General father is disgusting. Maybe he should give his son a medal for bravery under fire.

3 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:22:00 PST by A+Bert
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To: Poincare

What a great post.

4 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:26:04 PST by archiopterix
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To: Poincare

Are you the author? Super post!

5 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:28:59 PST by Critter (jim1@javanet.com)
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To: ALL

GOD,in your infinite wisdom, you have given us women with the courage of this one. Now give us the wisdom to hear,and the courage to act. If every sen. and rep.in washington sees this, MAYBE some will act. E-MAIL, SNAILMAIL< andFAX, that's all I can Ax.

6 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:31:37 PST by snowtigger (tigger@mosquitonet.com)
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To: Poincare Joe Montana nicolatesla Great Dane

EXCELLENT I certainly hope this woman sent this letter directly to the General.

7 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:35:00 PST by McGavin999
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To: Leonora wildandcrazyrussian crazykatz Serb5150

Best summary of the NATO debacle I've seen to date

8 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:36:11 PST by McGavin999
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To: Stand Watch and Listen Gael Vojvodina dirtboy

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9 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:40:11 PST by McGavin999
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To: Poincare

"General,

just as my husband was a legitimate target when he flew his missions over Vietnam,

your son was a legitimate target,

unlike the civilians he bombed."

10 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:45:00 PST by Joe Montana
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To: All

To help Serbian people please, visit: http://www.serbhelp.on.ca

11 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:47:40 PST by Misko
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To: Poincare

Kudos to you.. Great work.. Will take this out to as many people as possible... Thanks a lot....

12 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:47:59 PST by Cool Guy
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To: prometheus,Great Dane,Kate22,Cool Guy,zviadist,nikolatesla,Serb5150,

"And finally, I return to the Reuter's dispatch where you said, "this is a personal thing with me." Just what did you think, General, was happening to Americans of Serbian descent, many of whom still have fathers, mothers, sisters and brothers living in the Mother country, watching your son destroy a nation and a people? Was that not "a personal thing" for them?

"The Serbian people survived 500 years of suffering under the Ottoman Empire. They survived the atrocities committed under the Nazis by their fascist Croatian and Muslim enemies. They survived under Tito's brutal communist system. Now through our ignorance, our gullibility and a deliberate, concerted campaign of lies and disinformation to destroy these heroic people, they are facing annihilation by a hostile world.

And finally, General, welcome to the New World Order you have helped to create. Maybe the job you did in Kosovo and your performance at the Senate hearing will get you another star on your shoulder. Wear it in shame."

13 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:50:55 PST by Joe Montana
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To: Joe Montana

What?

You mean the aerial bombing of civilians is immoral?

But we were bombing for peace!

14 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:50:57 PST by Campion Moore Boru
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To: McGavin999,Great Dane,slym,flo,,zviadist,joanie-f,,Clinton's a rapist,sjy,Sal,big_ursa

bmp

15 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:51:34 PST by Joe Montana
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To: Poincare

What a wonderful summary.
I remember during the bombing, my father and uncle, both WW2 vets remarked, that it was the first time in thier lives they were sickened and ashamed of thier country.
rt

16 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:51:52 PST by rt1
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To: flatlander,wildandcrazyrussian,big_ursa,Al B.,metalbird1,Wallaby,dead,Clinton'sarapist,flanew,Jolly,

bmp

17 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:52:20 PST by Joe Montana
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To: Poincare

Socialist France has never been my favorite country and is one place I have purposely avoided in my travels, but at least THEY vetoed Serbian targets! General Short comes up very short when compared to a human being! Another political hack of a general who I would like to see kicked out, along with the other brass who sucked up to Klintoon is this most disgusting chapter in the history of American military engagements!

18 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:54:44 PST by DrLuigi
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To: WIGGY

This may interest you.

19 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:57:38 PST by Leonora
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To: rjaynej

This one deserves your special attention.

20 Posted on 11/03/1999 16:59:10 PST by The Man
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To: Poincare

Thank you for posting Mrs. Jatras' letter

21 Posted on 11/03/1999 17:01:21 PST by Covenantor
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To: McGavin999, Joe Montana

Thanks for getting the word out. I just got the open letter by way of e-mail forward. I don't know where else it might be published, yet.

22 Posted on 11/03/1999 17:10:41 PST by Poincare
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To: Joe Montana

"just as my husband was a legitimate target..."

You probably missed that part.

23 Posted on 11/03/1999 17:11:13 PST by tommygun7 (tommygun@imsnet.net)
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To: Joe Montana

In my emotion, I got stupid. Sorry. This stuff makes me so embarrassed for us all. I'm wondering why we don't act. Invisible forces keeping us at bay, or are we just cowards?

24 Posted on 11/03/1999 17:15:23 PST by tommygun7 (tommygun@imsnet.net)
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To: Poincare, Joanie-f, Jeff Head, John R. (Bob) Locke

This is the best post I've seen on the subject.

25 Posted on 11/03/1999 17:16:55 PST by tommygun7 (tommygun@imsnet.net)
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To: Poincare

When I heard about General Short's comments earlier, I couldn't help think of Captain Queeg and his ball bearings. He sounds like a man who should be relieved of combat duty.

26 Posted on 11/03/1999 17:31:34 PST by Cicero (Clinton's@Rapist)
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An eloquent, heartfelt, and well-reasoned appeal to the humanity of a man who possesses little or none.

I have only one thing of which the General should be mindful--a thing of which, ironically, our Secretary of State has been so keen to remind Serbian generals:

THERE IS NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON WAR CRIMES.

There will be trials.

The guilty will be executed.

Are you feelin' guilty, General?

27 Posted on 11/03/1999 17:42:32 PST by Benoit Baldwin (bpb@freeshell.org)
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To: Poincare

If only we had people running the military of high enough caliber to answer these questions. We might actually see some changes for the better.

28 Posted on 11/03/1999 17:48:43 PST by John R. (Bob) Locke (patriot_bob@yahoo.com)
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To: Poincare

Great Post Thanks for Info

It was the Serbian nationalist leader, General Draza Mihailovich, who rescued over 500 downed American pilots while Croatian and Bosnian/Kosovar/Albanian Muslims at the same time were turning them over to the Germans for execution.

"Good Read"

29 Posted on 11/03/1999 18:12:50 PST by invenire
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To: Poincare

This letter is the whole ugly mess in a capsule, thank you.

30 Posted on 11/03/1999 18:26:13 PST by Great Dane
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To: tommygun7

just as my husband was a legitimate target..."

I don' think so, you are a legitimate target, when you are at war.

31 Posted on 11/03/1999 18:33:36 PST by Great Dane
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To: tommygun7

Not cowards, there isn't much we can do, except what we are already doing here.

32 Posted on 11/03/1999 18:35:20 PST by Great Dane
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To: Poincare

Nothing I have read in the months that I have participated in this Forum matches this fantastic post. It encapsulates the frustration not only of those who suffered under this unjustified blitz, but also those of us who protested to no avil, it would seem. My admiration for Stella is boundless.

As for the weasel Short,proud of his lackey participation in the carnage and weeping for his son, one can only say he is "short" on quite a number of things that make a man!!

33 Posted on 11/03/1999 18:41:41 PST by Changeme
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To: Poincare

Outstanding, thank you maam....

34 Posted on 11/03/1999 18:46:17 PST by 4TheFlag
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To: Changeme

I am going to print this out and save it.

It says everything I have been saying much better than I could say it.

35 Posted on 11/03/1999 18:51:01 PST by Ronin
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To: Poincare

The feelings of millions.

36 Posted on 11/03/1999 18:58:20 PST by mbb bill (mbb@wizard.com)
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To: Poincare

Thank you for this wonderful letter by a very wise woman. She has put into eloquent words all of my feelings about the injustices rained upon the Serbian people and nation by Bill Clinton and his evil band.

God help those poor people, who will be starving and freezing to death this winter. How can we help them?

37 Posted on 11/03/1999 19:04:27 PST by excelsior (xxx)
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To: Poincare

Sweet Sweetcakes, what a post! You nailed that four star Mongolian jug bang cluster mess correctly. More. Do it again.

38 Posted on 11/03/1999 19:12:42 PST by rangergrunt
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To: Great Dane

Not cowards, there isn't much we can do, except what we are already doing here.

If I thought that this is all we could
do, I wouldn't be here. Our words have to
create action. I side with Jefferson and Patrick
Henry.

CLASS OF 2000

39 Posted on 11/03/1999 20:42:24 PST by tommygun7 (tommygun@imsnet.net)
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To: tommygun7

Our words have to create action.

And I think we are, not we alone, but a lot of likeminded people, I think the pressure put on the powers that be, through the net and some excellent reporters, are having an effect, just look how the real truth is beginning to trickle out, that at least is the hope I hang onto.

40 Posted on 11/03/1999 21:23:05 PST by Great Dane
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To: tommygun7

By the way, those pictures......... please, I just ate. :-}

41 Posted on 11/03/1999 21:24:34 PST by Great Dane
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To: Poincare

Come Lord Jesus and take me from this shameful world.

42 Posted on 11/03/1999 21:31:53 PST by modeerf
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To: John R. (Bob) Locke

"If only we had people running the military of high enough caliber to answer these questions. We might actually see some changes for the better."

The lady who wrote this can run the whole thing, for my money.

43 Posted on 11/03/1999 21:48:01 PST by LSJohn
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To: The Man

Thanks for the headsup.

Quote Of The Day by RLK

44 Posted on 11/03/1999 22:04:30 PST by RJayneJ
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To: excelsior

How can you help? For over 8 years now the Serbian Church in America, has been sending aide by ship to Greece where it is taken to Serbia. There is a wonderful devoted Priest,Father Draza Malic at the Eastern Diocese who has done this work tirelessly and faithfully. They collect money to pay for the shipping and they collect new clothes, blankets, first aide items, candles, new shoes, food, over-the-counter medicines, baby items, school supplies,ETC. The address is: 2110 Haymaker Road, Monroeville, Pa.15146. If you would like more details you may feel free to contact me on the Freerepublic mail system(it is GREAT!). We have sent 12 boxes recently and have another 10 just about ready to go off to Father next week. This is a great project for ANY group to take part in. PLEASE, PLEASE HELP!!!It feels REAL GOOD to help these victims of the klintoonistas.

45 Posted on 11/03/1999 22:18:08 PST by crazykatz
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To: Poincare

THANK YOU ....THANK YOU for this post. May God bless you for this. I am printing as I type...I will send it to the usual cast of characters and give copies to as many people as I can. The lady who wrote this is a Gift from God... His truth is marching on....

46 Posted on 11/03/1999 22:26:17 PST by crazykatz
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To: Great Dane, tommygun7

Great Dane...here nothing! It is what we do elsewhere with what we do here! A few hundred closed letters to Little General Short might help, if he has a conscience, a few hundred small town papers re-printing this letter, copies of it in local libraries, e-mailing to the idiots who you tried to convince to stop screaming for Serb blood months ago, supporting the lawsuits against Clinton, getting more information to anyone you got a response from when you wrote all your letters.

tommygun, cowardice plays its role. Then again, in the face of what we see, we lack faith in the people around us to support our efforts. But worse, Michael Short and his only concern: my son, my home, my life is only one example of what most human beings in our society have become reduced to...while it doesn't touch them personally, they will risk nothing. What they fail to realize is that it touches them, with every unjust death in Yugoslavia, Timor, the Caucasus each and every one of us loses a bit more of our humanity. People used to know, as you remind us often, that without pride and honor, life has no value...we live among too many valueless lives and the worst among us made a campaign to destroy the lives of perhaps the most proud and honourable people left in Europe, the Serbs of Yugoslavia.

tommygun, write a letter to Clinton...you and me in a sealed room, Clinton, Rubin, Holbrook, Shea, Albright, Clark, and Short's son armed with knives and bats in there to. Tell 'em we'll take our chances! Satisfaction...

47 Posted on 11/04/1999 01:41:20 PST by nikolatesla
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To: snowtigger, ALL

GOD,in your infinite wisdom, you have given us women with the courage of this one. Now give us the wisdom to hear,and the courage to act. If every sen. and rep.in washington sees this, MAYBE some will act. E-MAIL, SNAILMAIL< andFAX, that's all I can Ax.

Amen!

48 Posted on 11/04/1999 01:45:56 PST by nikolatesla
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To: DrLuigi

The French government fully supported the bombing and did absolutely nothing to reveal the lie campaign or the bombing of civilians. It actively declared Milosevic the only man responsible and repeatedly called attention to the "necessity of a humanitarian intervention". Voices were raised in many parliaments...in Italy and Greece the average citizen is fully aware of who the Yugoslavs and Albanians are and what makes them different...but no European executive was honest or competent enough to stop this. Further, all, like the European govt, ignored any efforts you made to get a response to your protests.

No government, no party, and no public in Europe does not share responsibility for this. Now they are all obligated if they have any sense of responsibility and justice to take steps to stop further aggressions against Yugoslavia. So am I, so are you.

However they will not, instead they will make statements like yours, based in the fantasy that we or they are cultured and civilized people.

49 Posted on 11/04/1999 01:57:55 PST by nikolatesla
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To: Poincare

This is a brilliant letter and beautifully written. The writer is clearly a wise, well-informed and thoughtful person.

Of course there were some atrocities on the ground committed against Albanians, but where as anyone sane would see the number of these as being crucial to the legality of the Nato attacks, the pro-bombers are now saying that the numbers are irrelevent. I would turn that argument on its head and say that even if there was actual genocide going on (which there was not) I can still not see why or how this would justify civilians being murdered in the cause of 'humanitarianism', international law being broken or an entire nation being devastated and demonised. If the Nato action was so clearly justified then why was it not sanctioned by the Security Council? And if this system failed, then why did they not change the system and then, within the confines of the reorganised system, attack within the boundaries of international law? What excuse do they have in any circumstance to break the Geneva and other conventions? This new argument that they acted to 'avoid' genocide being carried out is total madness, especially as proven largescale atrocities were taking place and ignored at the same time, even in a Nato member country, Turkey.

Anyway, back to the letter that you posted - I am amazed that so few people can see the hypocrisy of talking about suffering and 'personal involvement' while smashing up someone else's country. Were those Serbian children and other civilians really seen as 'the enemy'? Apparently so. How would the worst atrocity in the world be made better by blowing the legs off an eight-year-old girl or killing an elderly farmer, leaving his wife horrifically wounded and then ensuring that the hospitals and infrastructure are so badly damaged that they can't even receive help? I honestly can't understand how anyone could cheer as one innocent is killed, maimed or has their life ruined, while weeping for the elected 'victims', some of whom were openly admitted to be KLA fighters.

Great, great letter Poincare - it should be posted to every corner of every Nato country. Regards, Kate.

50 Posted on 11/04/1999 05:21:16 PST by Kate22
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To: McGavin999

Thanks for the heads up. Gut-wrenching summary of the whole sordid affair - have bookmarked for later use against those still trying to whoop up a victory.

51 Posted on 11/04/1999 06:21:57 PST by dirtboy
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To: A+Bert

I haven't heard any pilot or missle man claim credit for this monstrous war. "
I also have not seen any flag waving Americans stand for it either.
Anybody seen any Yellow Ribbon's lately?
Of course not, Check Mate.
rt

52 Posted on 11/04/1999 16:46:36 PST by rt1
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To: Poincare

Just now found this, and it is absolutely breathtaking. I will e-mail it everywhere. What I wouldn't give to see it appear in just one mainstream newspaper.

53 Posted on 11/04/1999 17:31:10 PST by Flo
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To: Poincare

Wow. I do believe that there is a DIRECT HIT.

54 Posted on 11/04/1999 17:43:30 PST by eniapmot
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To: all

It is very heartening to read how this open letter has moved many people to spread the letter and has moved many to aid the wartorn Serbian people. We do what we can.

55 Posted on 11/04/1999 19:07:14 PST by Poincare
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To: Poincare

Lt. General Michael Short is a war criminal.  He is in part responsible for the campaign that is kiling woman, children, and the aged in Yugoslavia.  He is encouraging attacks on them.

Nato's warmongers have said that its merciless war has been against the Government of Serbia and, in particular, against Milosevic, but the words of Lt. Colonel Michael Short reveal that NATO has been warring against the Serbian people themselves.
 

                        "I think no power to your refrigerator, no
                         gas to your stove, you can't get to work
                         because the bridge is down - the bridge on
                         which you held your rock concerts -- and
                         you all stood with targets on your heads.
                         That needs to disappear at 3 o'clock in the
                         morning." -- Lt. Gen. Michael Short,  US Air Force Commander, May 12

Clinton minion Strobe Talbot has said we should be proud of the way that NATO has conducted itself in this war, and that it has taken care not to conduct war on civilians.  But NATO's targets and  actions tell a far different story.

A NATO target

 
 
 

Following the advice of Anti-Serb writer Tom Friedman of the New York Times, NATO is bombing the Serb people back to 1389  and the Battle of Kosovo, a code word that means that NATO intends to destroy the Serbian nation and its people.  This is a variation, of course, on Curtis LeMay's old, "bomb 'em back  to the stone age."
 
 
 

Nato is conducting war on not only the people of Serbia but on the industries and means necessary to the survival of its people.


 
 

     After the demolition of the Petrovaradin bridge, Novi Sad and Petrovaradin were cut of water supply (600 000 citizens) since the main and city pipeline was constructed into the bridge. About one million citizens, according to Yugoslav sources, are short of water. About 500 000 workers became jobless due to the total destruction of industrial facilities all around the country. Two million citizens have no means for living and cannot ensure the minimum for existence. Overall material damage is enormous. Preliminary estimates indicate that NATO air strikes have incurred damages in excess of 10 billion dollars. --  Alexander Cockburn's Counterpunch
These actions are done with the goal of inflicting on the Serbian people cruel hardships -- First, long lasting economic ones, and, then, if they don't surrender, disease and starvation.  These actions are done in order to bring them to heel before NATO high command.
 

NATO PEACEBOMBS have killed more than 1,000 civilians.  Among the dead were 45 children. Another 4,500 people had been seriously injured, losing legs, and arms, and eyes.

Our TOMAHAWK DIPLOMACY claims for itself a special mission to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries and to punish those countries should they not submit to its unreasonable demands.  It holds for itself alone a right to carve up without regard to the aspirations of  anyone else in the area under its scope.  Will Turkish troops make up the occupying PEACEFORCE in the Kosovo?  What will the Greeks thinks?  Who cares, we can bomb them too if they get out of line.

Clinton is a totally depraved individual who does not ever stop his destructive actions.  His excesses know no bounds.  There is no one brave enough or smart enough to control him. The more the Serbs dig in against him, the more he will hate them, and the more he will grow determined to destroy them as the "evil race" of the Balkans.  One of his major goals in the Balkans is to use its inhabitants as unwilling participants in his and Holbrooke's Empire Building schemes, hence his talk about a Great Marshall plan to rebuilt the Balkans and create a utopia there after he has destroyed its culture and its religions.  This is to be his great legacy on the World Stage.  To accomplish this goal, he has to destroy those who present a forceful resistance to him.   One thing the Dayton blunder, a much wrongly touted success,  showed the Serbs was that the U.S. can not be trusted to honor an agreement, and that anti-Serbism is driving the policy.  Clinton representative Richard Holbrooke allowed the Croats to drive out more than 150,000 thousands Serbs who had been there since the 18th century.  He did this cynically, and unapologetically because he wrongly believed and no doubt still wrongly believes that his hand was enhanced at the diplomatic table.  This cynicism, by the way,  is a good example of Tomahawk diplomacy.

The situation in Kosovo has been miscast too.  Holbrooke and other Nato Myrmidons have portrayed the Albanians there as an oppressed minority, but, in fact, it is the Serb population of Kosovo that is the minority,  and a very small one too.  Since the Albanian sentiment is and has always been towards separation and the reunification with Albania to re-establish Greater Albania, (Are the NATO Greeks listening here?), they have made life hell for the 200,000 Serbs there against the nearly 2 million Albanians.  This is not something new by the way.  One can find that the Albanians of Kosovo, which produced a founder of Modern day Turkey, Niazi Bey,  have made life difficult for the Orthodox Serbs there for centuries. This did this because they were the rulers and the Serbs were the ruled.   None of these elemental facts important to the Balkan puzzle are considered on the war dogs in Washington.  They have tried to isolate the Serbs there, who have been the traditional defenders of the region from Ottomanization, and Habsburg's encroachments.  To ignore this complex history is true stupidity on the part of our blunderheaded policy makers.

It is thought in some quarters that one of the reasons the Serbs have attacked the Albanians of Kosovo is that they are looking for a place to settle those displaced Croatian Serbs whom Holbrooke ignore for his own glory  when he was hamming out his precious Dayton accord in Bosnia.


 To see more pictures of Clinton's real victims, click here.
 

56 Posted on 11/05/1999 00:17:07 PST by prometheus
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To: Poincare

I want to thank you for posting this moving and excellent letter. All Americans ought to be concerned that men like Lt. General Short are calling the shots in our military. He is truly a digusting figure withhout any honor.

57 Posted on 11/05/1999 00:28:07 PST by prometheus
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To: Poincare

As the wife of a retired Air Force fighter pilot and the mother of two sons, I share your concern for the safety of those whom we love; however, General, just as my husband was a legitimate target when he flew his missions over Vietnam, your son was a legitimate target, unlike the civilians he bombed.

from http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a40091.htm:

MORE ON CLINTON AND THE MILITARY - Part 7

CLINTON CHRONICLES BOOK 11-30-97 Lt. Col. Tom McKenney(retired); comments, Doug from Upland

[...]
For the November 15 demonstrations in London, Clinton organized a "March of Death" involving 1,200 demonstrators. Vietnam veteran, Colonel George Jatras, attended this parade on his way home from the war. He angrily stated in a 1993 interview on Larry King Live television show, "I was there. I just returned from Vietnam and I saw papier mache skulls with the photographs of POW's in the eyeballs."

Little did Jatras know that the organizer of the parade, who also marched carring a coffin, and who led the demonstrators to the U.S. Embassy, would later beocme his Commander in Chief! Clinton has, of course, denied he carried the coffin (on the Phil Donahue Show). However, his old friend from Georgetown, Father Richard McSorley, recalls vividly that Clinton helped carry a coffin to the American Embassy in London, and that when police stopped the group from entering the embassy compound, it was Clinton who negotiated as the leader of the demonstrators.

58 Posted on 11/05/1999 00:29:34 PST by Poincare
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To: Joe Montana

Joe,

See my above post one more time. Thanks.

59 Posted on 11/05/1999 00:30:12 PST by prometheus
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To: Yellow Rose of Texas, Alamo Girl

A very good piece of work.

60 Posted on 11/05/1999 01:04:59 PST by amom
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To: Poincare

And let us not forget how the media covered this war in a way as to build up popular hatred towards the Serbs and promote the destruction of the Serbian people.

61 Posted on 11/05/1999 01:13:17 PST by prometheus
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To: prometheus

"One thing the Dayton blunder . . . showed the Serbs was that

the U.S. can not be trusted to honor an agreement,

and that

anti-Serbism is driving the policy."

from prometheus

62 Posted on 11/05/1999 08:03:12 PST by Joe Montana
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To: prometheus

"The words of Lt. Colonel Michael Short reveal that NATO has been warring against the Serbian people themselves.

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"I think no power to your refrigerator, no gas to your stove, you can't get to work because the bridge is down - the bridge on which you held your rock concerts -- and you all stood with targets on your heads. That needs to disappear at 3 o'clock in the morning."

-- Lt. Gen. Michael Short, US Air Force Commander, May 12

63 Posted on 11/05/1999 08:51:37 PST by Joe Montana
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To: Poincare

You bring back memories. I stood on the steps of the former US embassy looking out on the rump of the vast throng that had marched that day. In vain the mob attempted to storm the shiny "new" embassy across the square, but were hurled back each time by British police who were out by the thousands and well-skilled in crowd/riot control. For weeks Clinton and his leader the infamous Black Dwarf had been agitating, and filling the press with the propaganda of the left. It all came to a head that crisp evening in London...all the months of disloyalty and planning by the master of subterfuge. In sheer implacable ignorant disloyalty, this man Clinton has no equal!

64 Posted on 11/05/1999 09:20:15 PST by Changeme
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To: Changeme

Who was the "Black Dwarf"?

PS--Thanks for your valuable post.

65 Posted on 11/05/1999 09:34:33 PST by Joe Montana
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To: tommygun7

Bump

More like No-Class of 2K or Class of Serial Mass Murderers 2000 (lest we forget Waco).

66 Posted on 11/05/1999 18:17:32 PST by Cossack
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To: Poincare

Depleted uranium shells do not poison or pollute anything except the targets they hit. But bump anyways.

67 Posted on 11/05/1999 18:30:49 PST by WGC
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To: WGC

Yep, DU is harmless to children and other living things. And Elvis is alive and well in Mexico and the moon is made of green cheese.

68 Posted on 11/05/1999 18:38:47 PST by Cossack
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To: Poincare

Great Article

Our warriors go into battle trusting in the honesty, honor and ethics of their superiors.

As an active duty military pilot, I can say with some authority, my superiors exhibit none of these traits. Officers with honor and integrity, those who question unlawful orders, get passed over for promotion early. The only officers now-a-days who make it to the top are a**-kissin, yes men of the CIC.

69 Posted on 11/05/1999 18:48:03 PST by WhiteKnight
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To: all

bump

70 Posted on 11/06/1999 04:25:40 PST by tommygun7 (tommygun@imsnet.net)
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To: all

bump

71 Posted on 11/06/1999 04:25:47 PST by tommygun7 (tommygun@imsnet.net)
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To: all

bump

72 Posted on 11/06/1999 04:25:51 PST by tommygun7 (tommygun@imsnet.net)
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To: all

bump

73 Posted on 11/06/1999 04:25:56 PST by tommygun7 (tommygun@imsnet.net)
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To: WhiteKnight and Poincare

As an active duty military pilot, I can say with some authority, my superiors exhibit none of these traits. Officers with honor and integrity, those who question unlawful orders, get passed over for promotion early. The only officers now-a-days who make it to the top are a**-kissin, yes men of the CIC.

Having served for more than 20 years, I wish I could say to you that your words are wrong. I wish I could tell you how sad it makes me to know that you're right.

Accept my deepest thanks for having the courage to continue to serve in such perilous times, answering to such cowardly self-servers.

Poincare, thank you for this excellent post. The truth can only be hidden for so long - it will always come out in the end.

74 Posted on 11/06/1999 04:48:43 PST by logos (logos@searnet.com)
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To: WhiteKnight

thanks for the post.

75 Posted on 11/06/1999 04:52:07 PST by Joe Montana
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To: Joe Montana

Thanks for the flag to this most excellent summary. One more war criminal definitively identified.

76 Posted on 11/06/1999 09:07:12 PST by Sal
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To: Poincare

I'm really speechless. It's all there, in Mrs Jatras' letter.

Thank You.

Mel from Belgrade

77 Posted on 11/06/1999 09:54:52 PST by Mel70
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To: A+Bert

Who commands the General?

That's where this letter should have gone!

78 Posted on 11/06/1999 10:02:31 PST by JimVT
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To: JimVT

At one time, the West Pointers were the cream of the crop. Alas West Point isn't what it used to be and neither is the Officer Corps. No More McArthurs, Ike etc.. Ditto Annapolis and Halsy, Nimitz etc.

79 Posted on 11/06/1999 10:18:42 PST by A+Bert
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To: A+Bert

Alas West Point isn't what it used to be and neither is the Officer Corps. No More McArthurs, Ike etc.. Ditto Annapolis and Halsey, Nimitz etc.

Well, A+, I can't agree with that.

We still have plenty of honorable and courageous military men but they have been saddled with a CinC who could not get up the courage to serve his country when he should have....but now has the balls to order America's military might to intrude where it should not!

80 Posted on 11/06/1999 10:48:53 PST by JimVT
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To: JimVT

Mac spoke up and was relieved of his Command. His 'Old Soldiers never Die' speech was the greatest.

Name me one of the present that even comes close. I'm waiting for Swartzkoff to speak out. I guess I'm gonna have a long wait.

Those damn files. Somebody ought to destroy 90% of them. Gov't by blackmail

81 Posted on 11/06/1999 11:09:17 PST by A+Bert
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To: WhiteKnight

'men'?

you give them that much credit?

82 Posted on 11/06/1999 11:13:03 PST by eniapmot
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To: logos

I've served for 14 years now myself. This will be my last. I can no longer in good consceince keep obeying orders by these people. ie: bombing sovereign counties, sending our men and women all over the world on "the crisis of the week", anthrax vaccinations, etc....

83 Posted on 11/06/1999 11:30:44 PST by WhiteKnight
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To: eniapmot

men, you give them that much credit

My only response, as I previously posted, is the fact the military has turned into a politically correct, NWO, consideration of the feelings of others, organization.

So, I guess your right, they were men, but have now been castrated.

84 Posted on 11/06/1999 11:36:32 PST by WhiteKnight
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To: WhiteKnight

bmp

85 Posted on 11/06/1999 12:38:25 PST by Joe Montana
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To: Joe Montana

Thanks for the bmp Joe!

86 Posted on 11/06/1999 12:46:08 PST by WhiteKnight
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To: Everyone

The cold, cruel, unsparing winter is settling on Serbia. Please see post #45, and determine to help the people whom our government has brutally bombed "back to the Stone Age". Give whatever you can.

87 Posted on 11/12/1999 16:43:15 PST by excelsior (xxx)
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To: Poincare

Although this letter contains many references that clearly illustrate the horrors that we speak out against regularily I must say however that blaming the whole thing on one lone army general and his son may not be fair regardless of how we may view the military establishment as a whole. Gen. Short did not design the cluster bombs and those that did are rarely seen in public life. Does anyone out there have any idea how many generals are involved at every level in the execution of executive orders for a campaign such as Kosovo? One rebellious General and his son would not have made much of a difference and the consequences of their rebellion would not attract our sympathies nor would we come to comfort them for their brave opposition..we would forget them so fast.

This article demonstrates the power that flows from the arrousal of public sentiment and frustration at our inability to prevent these actions decided by those in power. Wanting a quiet private life is far from unusual as is a father's love for his son. As far as I can see the only thing mentioned in this article that we know for fact is that Gen. Short wants the best for his son even if this can only be achieved unfairly. General Short did not order Albright to kiss the heretic and I'm sure he was not privy to the planning that led to the embassy bombing. In fact it seems that Gen. Short-end-of-the-stick is becoming another Clinton casualty. The administration's sacrificial lamb. This letter should have been addressed to Clinton.

88 Posted on 11/29/1999 01:55:29 PST by Stay'n Alive
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To: JimVT

" Who commands the General? That's where this letter should have gone!"

Precisely !

89 Posted on 11/29/1999 02:03:32 PST by Stay'n Alive
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To: Stay'n Alive,everybody

Hail Freepers! Feels realy good to be in your company.

What can we do: During the bombardment Serbs around the world organized a NoBombs mailing list in order to skip inbetweeners and skimmers for sending help. The result is a Prava Pomoc - Real Help that brings every single penny to temporary displaced persons from Kosovo. The site is: www.pravapomoc.org.yu or e mail to Jovana Krstic - vajat@Eunet.yu. A few bucks may worm up a child during the upcoming winter. Like I've said, every penny will go straight to the needy, give you my word for it - latajeti@gte.net.

Serbian Church is OK, too. Serb priests don't hump children, nor do they steal.

Little reminder: On the 28 of June, 1389, Prince Lazar Hrebeljanovic led Serbian Knights in the battle of Kosovo against Ottoman Empire - Turks. Church bells rang in Paris, on the false news of victory. Eventually, Ottoman Empire broke over the back of Serbian people. Question: Are you 100% sure that, if not for that battle, your screen names would be Fatima22 or Great Murat or...?

Brave woman Mrs. Jatras, eh? I've thought that that species was eradicated. And to quote Mrs. Jatras: Luv'ya!

90 Posted on 11/29/1999 20:34:42 PST by Hrebeljanovic
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To: Hrebeljanovic

bmp

91 Posted on 10/09/2001 11:21:32 PDT by Sus
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